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  1. #31
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    Anyone wanting to learn a little about some hop characteristics, take a big whiff of the Boston Lager - that sort of soapy aroma is Hallertauer hops.

    Sam the first American beer to follow the Reinheitsgebot? Maybe the first micro with a large marketing budget, but I don't believe it was the first. Anchor, in its current incarnation under Maytag's ownership, has been brewing and bottling their Steam Beer - a lager - since 1971, and I'm pretty sure it follows the proper ingredient bill - for one.

    The Boston Beer Co. (Sam) was founded 13 years later in 1984.

    S.
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    There was an "AND" there.

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    Yep... and that "and" was, and it was also sold in Germany. So, for a time, it was the first and only beer exported from America to Germany. That's got to count for something, doesn't it?

    Sam Adams isn't a first choice, but their beers are certainly decent for the most part. Boston Ale is wonderful, and I even remember having their Double Bock many years ago and enjoying it immensely.
    So many beers, so little time off...

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    Aparently this is an old thread, but I'm new to the game here and have to add my two cents.

    There's nothing wrong with Sam Adams. There's nothing wrong with Budwieser or Pabst Blue Ribbon either. They just don't taste very good. That is surely an unfair comparison, but you have to admit SA is a large corporate brewery just like the others. This isn't a socialist, anti-establishment statement, it's a fact. When production reaches a certain level, and share holder profits become a priority beer quality becomes a lower priority. For example, a brewery with a small production may stay with whole cone hops instead of hop extract despite the higher cost. When your production is tens of thousands of liters a day, that cost adds up. ratman03 defends this saying Anchor and Sierra Nevada are also widely available, but in the case of SN at least, the brewery stays pivatley owned, and has more quality control workers than brewers.

    Another argument ratman03 gave was that SA adheres to the Rheinheitsgebot. Limiting yourself to water, malted grain, hops, and yeast doesn't nessecarily make a good beer. Here in Belguim, in fact, you'll have a hard time finding a beer that doesn't add sugar, unmalted grains, orange peel, cloves, or any number of other addatives and that only make the beer taste better.

    That's what it's all about at the end of the day. How does the beer taste. For me give me an SA before a Coors, but if there is a choice, I'll take a craft brew. Defending SA with it's mirco brew history or it's adherence to an arbitrary list of ingredients misses the whole point. The only defence a beer has is it's taste, and for me SA doesn't cut it.

    b.t.w. Adhereing Rheinheitsgebot was not ruled illeagal, it was just ruled that you could not outlaw beers that don't limit themselves to these ingredients.
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    While Boston Beer Co. is far from a "microbrewery" in terms of production #s, it's beer lineup still qualifies with me to keep it in mind as a "craft brewery". Yes, they have a light beer - hated that fact when it first came out, but have learned to accept (ignore?) it. And yes, their Boston Lager isn't my favorite lager in the world, but so what - it's still a tasty beer.

    I wonder how many here who condemn, or simply relegate Samuel Adams to a back up choice have explored outside the Lager, Boston Ale, etc. Grab some DBock (I prefer it after a year in the cellar), Holiday Porter (new in the winter 12pks this year), Schwarzbier (new winter beer) or Cream Stout. Or get to a beerfest (BA Extreme Beer Fest?) and get a taste of some of their more experimental stuff - 3 Weiss Men Weizenbock, Rauchbier, Double IPA, Utopias or whatever else they might be whipping up in Jamaica Plain.

    I've re-evaluated my feelings about BBC over the past year or so. Maybe it's time for some others to take another look, too?

    Cheers!

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    Fairly well put Eppie. I think everyone here thinks SA is a worthy beer to drink or at least is acceptable. Just not to all of our subjective standards. Not the first choice, but not a bad choice.

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    Just tried to go to the Sam Adams site, and mistyped my birthyear in the opening page, and now they won't let me in at all! Even when I clear out my windows and reopen my browser, it won't even load up the page for me. This is really irritating! It's like being accused of trying to buy beer underage - at MY age!
    So many beers, so little time off...

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    That's interesting fret - did you try deleting your temp files and cookies and all that other windows junk?

    I used to know a guy in high school who made fake ID's, maybe I can get him in touch with you.

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    Originally posted by fretlessman71
    Just tried to go to the Sam Adams site, and mistyped my birthyear in the opening page, and now they won't let me in at all! Even when I clear out my windows and reopen my browser, it won't even load up the page for me. This is really irritating! It's like being accused of trying to buy beer underage - at MY age!

    Fret, I did the same thing. It drove me crazy trying to get in there.
    I cleared the cookie file and the temp. file and I don't remember what else. I think I finally closed the internet connection and then signed back on and the site let me in. What a pain in the you know what. Back on subject, I don't have a problem with SA products. Some I like and some I don't. I did try a Boston Lager on tap not too long ago and found it to be quite tasty. Well balanced and a great hop finish. Definetly take SA over bmc.
    And for those of you who really don't like beer, there's AB, Coors and MillerSAB products.

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    Originally posted by fretlessman71
    Just tried to go to the Sam Adams site, and mistyped my birthyear in the opening page, and now they won't let me in at all! Even when I clear out my windows and reopen my browser, it won't even load up the page for me. This is really irritating! It's like being accused of trying to buy beer underage - at MY age!
    For any site like that, forget trying to type/scroll to your actual birthday. Just use the first things available...like Jan 1, 1950. Sometimes it's just easier to lie.

    BTW, I like the revamp to the Sam site - much easier to move around, more pleasing to the eye and still very informative.

    Cheers!

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    Hey - if anyone can get into the site, can you get me an email address so I can ask someone what to do? I've tried all suggestions on this board, and nothing - it's so bad that it won't even let the first screen load up! It just "times out" whenever I try to do it. It makes me want to boycott their beer, although as little of it that I've had in the last few years I'm sure they wouldn't notice or care... it's just really frustrating to want to read about their new beers and be shut out like this. Makes me feel like a junior high student who has to stay after school while all of his friends get to go outside and play football.
    So many beers, so little time off...

    www.michaelolsononline.com - Drop in and say hi! WAY better than the old one.

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    fret - the site may just be down. Tried to get in twice this morning but simply get "Page cannot be displayed". Site maintenance? Maybe they realized treating customers like children pisses 'em off? Who knows...

    Cheers!

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    TRUTH ! As spoken by what sounds like a well informed beer drinker. Nice reply to what I agree is an uninformed opinion. THANKS
    SteveO

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    ANOTHER Steve!!! Our numbers continue to multiply!

    Welcome to the board-


    Steve
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    Originally posted by steveh
    Sam the first American beer to follow the Reinheitsgebot?
    S. [/B]
    I was saying it was the FIRST AMERICAN BEER IN GERMANY.
    My posts are definitive. Reality is frequently inaccurate.

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