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    Man! I go on vacation for 1 week and see I miss? At any rate, This has always been a happy, civil and gentlemanly place. That's why I hang my hat here. Glad to see everything has been patched up. Now move along....There's nothing to see here...

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    It is the most friendly forum on the web - well, the most friendly in a non-romantic way
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    I mthink that all of you fellow beer lovers here at Realbeer are da bomb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HogieWan
    It is the most friendly forum on the web - well, the most friendly in a non-romantic way

    Thtop it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikegobrew
    I kinda feel guilty as the person who posted the original comment that got all of this started,
    And I promise we'll have a friendly, civilized discussion about light lagers (the good, bad, ugly, and trans-stereotypical) sometime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveh
    And I promise we'll have a friendly, civilized discussion about light lagers (the good, bad, ugly, and trans-stereotypical) sometime soon.

    S.
    steve - I think your reference to light lagers is intended to mean pale lagers where the common usage of "light lager" refers to "low calorie" lager

    I was going to PM this to you, but I felt it might be better here
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    Quote Originally Posted by HogieWan
    steve - I think your reference to light lagers is intended to mean pale lagers where the common usage of "light lager" refers to "low calorie" lager

    I was going to PM this to you, but I felt it might be better here
    Oh Christ....here we go again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HogieWan
    steve - I think your reference to light lagers is intended to mean pale lagers where the common usage of "light lager" refers to "low calorie" lager

    I was going to PM this to you, but I felt it might be better here
    I think those are "lite" lagers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HogieWan
    steve - I think your reference to light lagers is intended to mean pale lagers where the common usage of "light lager" refers to "low calorie" lager
    I used "light lagers" as the term that sparked the original conversation...

    But check BJCP for further confirmation.

    http://www.bjcp.org/2008styles/style01.php Note categories 1D & 1E.

    Nice and easy, eh Deco?

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    Nice & easy.

    Do you know what we REALLY need around here? We need a common definition thread. That might put a stop to some of the confusion.

    For instance:

    Light Lager vs. Pale Lager. We all probably know what the BJCP guidelines say, but how are those terms used in reality. I would bet that most people think of BMC as light lagers and craft beers like Bell's Lager of the Lake or Troegs(?) Sunshine Pils.

    If everybody knows what everybody else is talking about, and we have a common usage definition, then there won't be a "Oh, I thought that you meant..., but I was really talking about..."

    Of course, I could just be blowing smoke out of me arse.
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    I reference the BJCP that Steve listed above. Note category 1A: "Lite" lagers, distinct from "light" lagers.
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    Enough about the definitions what is it you guys like in theese beers?

    I am quite particular to a good bohemian pilsner, or a nice blonde ale.

    \However I sometimes cringe when I see an exempilary beer style on the label of bland.

    Canadian examples are labat blue pilsner and alex keiths pale aale.

    it would be somewhat dificult to distinguish the two between a blind taste test with a third glass filled with water. (might be exagerating a little).

    and what about the wit's and the heffe's they are my favorite summer selection.

    there has just been the introduction of mill streets organic lager which is as bland as the bigger guys and is marketed to the "granola" eaters. I am not willing to pay $12 for six bottles of water and hence not willing to do the same for beer that tastes like water. Well not twice anyways first try was a sneaky one and I gave most of that beer away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East Coaster
    there has just been the introduction of mill streets organic lager which is as bland as the bigger guys and is marketed to the "granola" eaters.
    Do you mean Mill "Stream?" IIRC, that is a Miller product, which would explain your experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East Coaster
    Enough about the definitions what is it you guys like in theese beers?

    there is something about the subtlety inherent to a well crafted helles. Everything is just right. They are easy to drink with just a touch this or that to keep it interesting for the whole glass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beerking
    Do you mean Mill "Stream?" IIRC, that is a Miller product, which would explain your experience.
    Millstream is a micro in Iowa: http://www.millstreambrewing.com/
    Been around since '85 and there's no Miller affiliation (though I think that's been a myth for a long time).

    Mill Street is a Canadian brewery, don't know that I've ever seen it here.

    To Hogie's point, there is something nice and satisfying about a good, mellow Helles. It's not screaming for attention, but the rich malt flavor and soft mouth-feel just go down so easy. Every time I have a fresh one I have to wonder where the US macros got off track.

    S.
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