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    Smithwick's and Modelo

    Brews lacking sapidity
    How do you like that term

    What do Smithwick's Imported Irish Ale by Guiness and Modelo Especial lager have in common? The other day conducting a tasting of one after the other I noted although both are entirely satisfactory, I could drink either one all day, they lack that aftertaste, often provided by just the right dosage of hop, that distinguishes a truly superior brew

    Was it just a bad day on my part or am I onto something

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    I wouldnt disagree with you here. If by "just the right dosage" you many any. Not sure I would sign onto the "entirely satisfactory" part though. Smithwicks is a step down from modern Harp for me and Modelo I would categorize as almost undrinkable (or as I often call these beers a "cooking beer"). Id rather have a Tecate then a Modelo any day and a Tecate isnt very good. That being said even as a beer head I DO believe in the phenomenon of "good bad beers". I put Miller High Life, Old Style, maybe Red Stripe and some others into this category.
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    Rex thank you most categorically for that excellent response

    I wouldnt disagree with you here. If by "just the right dosage" you mean any.
    Thank you for confirming my observation

    Not sure I would sign onto the "entirely satisfactory" part though.
    My two Sons and I as Chief Tasters and Recording Secretary, resp, of The Greater Southwest Beer-Tasting Society on a nonlinear scale of 1-10 rate anything we might drink all day at, say, a ballgame, at 3, "satisfactory," but not necessarily "entirely"

    Smithwicks is a step down from modern Harp for me
    But isn't Harp a lager

    and Modelo I would categorize as almost undrinkable (or as I often call these beers a "cooking beer").
    I'm not so sure. Though as the first sip I might have rated it around 2.8, depending on whether it's the first beer of a tasting session, it's vastly superior to oldtimers Bud, Michelob, Schlitz; no sweetness, no hops, rating in the range 0.3 to, say, 1.7

    Id rather have a Tecate than a Modelo any day and a Tecate isnt very good.
    For some reason the latter isn't readily available hereabout and so we have only this one scoring

    Modelo beer, Mexico 2.0/2.0

    As for the former, we must have mixed feelings:

    Tecate beer, Mexico; 0.1/1.2; 4.7/1.0; 3.0/1.2; 4.5/2.2; 6.3/0.1

    Compared with

    Smithwick’s Irish Ale, Ireland 2.1/2.9; 1.6/2.5; 3.8/2.2; 1.6/2.7

    That being said even as a beer head I DO believe in the phenomenon of "good bad beers". I put Miller High Life, Old Style, maybe Red Stripe and some others into this category.
    Red Stripe Jamaican lager 1.8/4.6; 3.2/3.0; 3.0/3.5

    Rex been real pleasure chat
    Last edited by dalehileman; 04-08-2013 at 02:01 PM.

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    Negra Modelo, OTOH, is a decent rendition of a Vienna lager.
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    Modelo is really only good to me when I'm eating tacos. Then it's refreshing! It's been a while since I've had Smithwick's, but last time I had it I remember it was decent, but not my first choice by any means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalehileman
    My two Sons and I as Chief Tasters and Recording Secretary, resp, of The Greater Southwest Beer-Tasting Society on a nonlinear scale of 1-10 rate anything we might drink all day at, say, a ballgame, at 3, "satisfactory," but not necessarily "entirely"
    I admire your organized system, your record keeping and the fact you have two willing participants to balance your numbers. I would like to do such a thing with my wife and two daughters but they arent much on statistics and the girls general response scale for such a tasting would generally range from "blech!" to "I dont want any beer" unfortunately.

    But isn't Harp a lager
    Indeed. Which should tell you something about how long its been since Ive last tasted a Smithwicks and what my general impression of it was. Must lump the two together since they are both made by Guinness. Or maybe I was thinking of Killians... Who knows...

    Red Stripe Jamaican lager 1.8/4.6; 3.2/3.0; 3.0/3.5
    I was in Jamaica in March and my all-inclusive hotel offered Red Strip and Red Stripe Light (?) as the ONLY beers on tap in the entire place! Now I was somewhat surprised when I ordered my first and I found it actually had some flavor and descernable notes of fresh grain and slight roastyness if not a hop presence. The only other Red Stripes I have had had been in bottles in the US and I had never been very impressed. So maybe because it was closer to the source and/or on tap it was actually better? Of course even at that rate I found myself tired of them after my 2nd or 3rd one (which got me to about 10 AM most days at a club that hands out free drinks) so I was generally moving onto Daiquiris by that point for the rest of the day. C'est la vie...
    On the chest of a barmaid in Sale
    Were tattooed the prices of ale
    And on her behind
    For the sake of the blind
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    I would not take either to hockey for a after game beer. I would have no problem having either while dinning out.
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